37. Volume: Mark Yettica-Paulson: A Way Forward Through Dialogue

These are trying times. But we’re talking, we’re exploring, and we’re digging deep within ourselves and our history. And that’s a good thing. It’s time to find a way forward through dialogue.

This is The Psychology of Entrepreneurship,

a highly produced audio documentary style, revealing series that follows Ronsley Vaz and his guests, as they strive to go inside & unravel the inner workings of the mind of an entrepreneur, artist, athlete, academic; to decipher what is the psychology of our decisions.

If you are an entrepreneur (BTW we consider that mothers are the original entrepreneurs) and would like to understand why we do certain things in certain situations, and if small changes in thinking can deliver massive amounts of results in success and happiness, then this podcast is for you.

This is a very special and important volume.

Ronsley sat down with Mark Yettica-Paulson, an Indigenous leader from the South East Queensland and North East NSW regions of Australia. Mark comes from the Birrah, Gamilaroi, and Bundjalung peoples.

Mark is the Founder and Chief of Super Native Unlimited, specialising in creative and cultural leadership development. He’s worked closely with National Australia Bank, The Australian Football League, Medibank Australia, Australia Post and The Foundation for Young Australians. He’s also the Joint Campaign Director for Recognise, the recent campaign for a National Referendum to Amend the Australian Constitution to acknowledge the Aboriginal people and to support the removal of discrimination. Mark is a TEDx speaker, a visionary and an uniter of the people. And the list goes on and on. 

Mark has worked tirelessly to give a voice to the Indigenous people of Australia, as well as educate non-Indigenous people of the real history of their country. We hear a lot of the systemic racism America faces and how it’s shaped its current reality, but what about Australia? Ronsley wanted to dig deeper to understand more about the collective psyche of the country that he calls home.

This conversation with Mark was so enlightening that we decided to split this volume into three parts. In Part 1, Ronsley explores the concept of identity, what it means for non-white people in Australia, and across the world, and how we can all benefit from talking about it more openly. Mark gives us insight into why we’re naturally prone to avoid subjects of race and identity, and why it’s so important to get past that so we can find a way forward through dialogue.


Other important topics in this volume:
  • Ronsley’s emotion surrounding this volume
  • How systemic racism Indigenous people face results in real quantifiable challenges
  • Why modern racism is subtle and hidden
  • Mark’s airport lounge analogy and why it’s so poignant
  • Holding a mirror up to your own behaviour
  • Why is all this your problem?
  • The paradox of “proximity equals legitimacy”
  • The untapped cultural identity
  • How a shallow memory is holding us back
  • The two topics you should never talk about at the dinner table. Or should you?


Links & Resources:

Mark’s profile on Australia Council for the Arts

Mark on Twitter

Mark on LinkedIn

Super Native Unlimited

Foundation for Young Australians

The Recognise Campaign

Mark’s TEDx Talk

Ronsley’s TEDx Talk

BMC Public Health Peer-Reviewed Study on Experience of Racism Among Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders Living in the Australian State of Victoria

Beyond Blue Discrimination Against Indigenous Australians 

Students face “confronting” levels of Racism

Koori Mail Issues Issue 423 Page 21

Creative Minds Article- Racism in Aboriginal Australia

Prejudice and Discrimination Video

The Power of Privilege: Tiffany Jana at TEDxRVA Women

Indigenous Australia: What They Don’t Teach You (Part 1)

Author: Ronsley Vaz

Ronsley is the founder & chief day dreamer at AMPLIFY. He is an author, speaker & serial entrepreneur.

He has a Masters’ degree in Software Engineering and an MBA in Psychology and Leadership. He is known as the creator of We Are Podcast – the first Podcasting Conference in the Southern Hemisphere, and the host of The Bond Appetit Podcast and Should I Start a Podcast. He has an audience of over 3 million in 133 countries.

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